May 01, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14
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#21
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Krytan Explorer
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Well, what they've done is going to cause as much anger in the community as the first "looting scale", when HM was introduced. Personally, I think they owe us an offical statement on the current situation.
What I think has happend, is Anet has been getting a flood of complaints from the super rich. "OMG, my uber stack of ectos is worth half now because of your stupid HM drop rates!".
Nice...
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May 01, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20
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#22
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Guild: [Liar]
Profession: Mo/
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Something else odd that I encountered yesterday.
I was farming Corsairs (trying for a colossal) and the first 5 runs I got golds (no colossals, got a req 11 gold tattooed tho) and then the next 10 runs I got nothing. So I went and vanquished a zone (because I to do not believe that anet dumped anti farm code) to reset my drop rate, went back and 10 more runs, not a single gold. I understand it's all random and that there is no pattern but it seems odd that I would get 5 in a row and then nothing for 20+ runs. I went to a few other farming spots and got no golds. I then went back to the corsairs and did a few more, still nothing.
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May 01, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30
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#23
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: [PMS]
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I don't think it's an anti-farm code, as I've been seeing it happen even though I've been vanquishing completely different areas. At first I saw tons of golds drop. Yesterday I vanquished 7 areas, and got all of 3 gold drops for it. Lots of purples still though.
How would the cupcakes have affected the drops? They drop in addition to normal loot, they don't replace it.
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May 01, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41
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#24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Edge
Guild: Tormented Weapons [emo]
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You guys must have been having better luck than me. I got squat in HM when it first started and I still get squat. Not really a big deal for me though. Most of the time, I'm just happy playing the game.
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May 01, 2007, 05:53 PM // 17:53
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#25
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: ALOA
Profession: E/Me
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HM isn't going to be more popular/successful until Anet realizes that greater challenge should equal greater rewards. When the drops gets better, and the titles gain some significance, you'll see more people playing.
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May 01, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#26
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare]
Profession: W/Mo
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I haven't try farming in HM yet but from my past experiences, the first few runs you'll guarantee gold or decent drops. After a while farming at same spots over and over again, you'll see ok to decent drops but rare one are hard to get.
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May 01, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41
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#27
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Sins FTW!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA
Guild: Angel Sharks [AS]
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I don't really know what it is, if it's anything at all other than just bad luck, but I've seen the drops become pitiful now. When HM first came out and I was doing missions, my groups would get at least 10 gold weapons PER mission. Now I'm lucky to see 10 gold weapons a day drop for my groups. Heck, I'm lucky to see half of that drop in a day... and rarely is it ever for me. I'm getting a ton of purple now.
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May 01, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58
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#28
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Guild: [Liar]
Profession: Mo/
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I get a ton of purples as well now and I should have noted that on my farming runs I did receive a ton of purple drops. I dont expect a gold drop every run, but is it unreasonable to expect one every few runs when soloing 40+ monsters? I don't think so...
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May 01, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51
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#29
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Tampa, Florida
Guild: Sticks and Stones
Profession: R/Rt
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Did Aurora Glade and Riverside Province with a PUG last night in hard mode, and we all got several nice golds and purples.
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May 01, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52
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#30
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Jungle Guide
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I think there is character /age discrimination too
I prefer to play my longer if not longest standing characters, they tend to have the most options and the most fun to play for me.
These characters, and my primary in particular hardly ever see a gold or green, even through entire chapters.
Meanwhile newer up and comings ones occasionally fall over golds if not greens. It's odd and where sure I like it on them, what about my fave?
Anyways yeah in general I got turned back on to 'hey maybe there's something behind the drops now' and bosses drop nothing or just cash way too much of the time, like things get stuck or something, and I haven't even begun to dig in/farm -and it isnt just hard mode, solo, with heroes etc -
I headed to undead hordes reg mode with guildies for cupcakes and *nothing* dropped for half the quest, and *then* loot 'kicked on'
I mean I dont get it, there's *way* too much loot massaging going on.
Let us have some reasonable expectations and fun here.
Hard Mode brought me back to GW in the hopes of fun and good loot.
Honestly to date I've gotten *one* great gold and not more than 5 greens across my 9 character slots, 3 chapters, and almost every skill across them.
And that gold dropped when mobs were fighting eachother and actually dropped for another player, but I was showing them the run and they had pity on me That sale kept me out of the poor house - I hate farming but then GW should make going through the game/zones/missions more rewarding.
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May 01, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38
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#31
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CKaz
I headed to undead hordes reg mode with guildies for cupcakes and *nothing* dropped for half the quest, and *then* loot 'kicked on'
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This quest has always been like that in HM, mostly because the restless dead don't drop anything ever (they were originally level 1...), so don't take this as evidence for anything else that may be going on.
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May 01, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42
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#32
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Guild: N/A atm
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/Agree
I noticed the drops decrease 2 days ago or its a nerf to certain areas or the anti farm code back in some new form(anti farm on gold drops), maybe it was the event, so ill test it again, yay for another 2 days of farming the same area over and over, really i think anet made a mistake some where and looked at the data and said omg turn that tap off..quick quick its flooding in here.
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May 02, 2007, 04:08 AM // 04:08
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#33
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: California
Guild: Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]
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I farm at different times of the day, and it has always seemed to me that I get better drops in the morning than during 'peak' hours. A guildie of mine notices better drops late at night when there are fewer people on, too. This includes gold drops from chests in my experience.
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May 02, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20
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#34
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Death To Society [syke]
Profession: N/Me
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I got 6 gold drops in under 7 minutes farming lvl 30 titans. Although one was from a chest.
I rotate between,
Undead:Hydras:Griffons:Titans:Ettins&Skale
I get an average of 2 gold drops per run with one almost always coming from a chest. However my min is 1 gold per run and my max tends to be 3 per run with the occasional lucky 4 or 5 (normally from running into a second chest).
I really haven't seen a drop in the gold rates but then again I only farm an hour a day to meet my needs.
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May 02, 2007, 04:40 AM // 04:40
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#35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Well if you're bored, then you're boring!
Profession: R/
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I haven't noticed a single bit of difference with the frequency of gold drops during hard mode, but then again I don't live and die for the 'rinse and repeat' method of obtaining them (aka 'farming' for a particular kind of item). Since its inception, I've averaged 2-3 gold drops per area I've vanquished, and I've done about 24 between 3 campaigns, spread out among 6 of my 9 characters.
What you need to try is this:
Sit back, relax, realize hard mode has been around all of 3 weeks, vanquish an area, move on to the next one, log out for awhile (works everytime, whether for an hour, or a day or two), grab a new character (seriously, try this, it works wonders) and try again. And don't forget to breathe in between.
All this talk of 'they screwed with the code and didn't tell us, so now I'm suffering because I'm not getting my gold drops' is rediculous, at best. It was never guaranteed, by any source, that characters would be showered with gold items simply by switching to hard mode. It was stated that your odds of receiving said gold items would increase. For those observing a lesser amount being found, you should take my advice.
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May 02, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28
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#36
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Northern California
Guild: HoTR
Profession: N/Me
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vanquishing / missioning seem about the same to me, though really I only need to do an area once.
But while farming HM, I totally notice a difference. First few dead sword farms, it was insane. It really to me ressembles normal anti-farm behavior.
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May 02, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04
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#37
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: Mo/Me
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So, what currently favored areas would one test this data at? I might drag out my 55 gear and give it a go, this weekend.
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May 02, 2007, 06:31 AM // 06:31
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#38
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Order of the immortal
Profession: N/Mo
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well finding it almost impossible to make cash in normal mode I've given hard mode a go a few times, in different areas but got zip. No gold drops one purple drop and only about 1 drop per 50-100 creatures killed and they are usually things like mergoyle skulls or skale claws etc. nothing good. I'm fed up with this I can't get cash in either mode. I realise that going out in HM with heroes would reduce the drops a little but one mergoyle skull in 65 kills that's just ridiculous. I've moved around in case it's the area same everywhere I go. I did the first prophecies mission, I tried a couple of places in factions - a different campaign always the same, nothing...I'm not expecting a huge haul going out with heroes but one gold occasionally would be nice. And 1 drop every 50-100 kills is pathetic, I thought it was meant to be 1 in 8
Fed up fed up fed up...
Last edited by Abarra; May 02, 2007 at 06:34 AM // 06:34..
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May 02, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37
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#39
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Budapest
Profession: E/
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My team always get about 5-8 gold drops in vanquish or mission.
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May 02, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42
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#40
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ
Guild: The Gear Trick [GEAR]
Profession: W/A
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plains of jarin hardmode, soloing all the spiders. first run: about 1200gold, a white dye, and a couple of decent purple items. second run: about 800gold, a silver dye, 2 cupcakes, and a spider web. third run: about 300gold and 2 spider webs. fourth run: a couple white non-max weapons and about 250gold.
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